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		<title>Paul Ritchie at 04:37, 7 December 2015</title>
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				<updated>2015-12-07T04:37:43Z</updated>
		
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				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 04:37, 7 December 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot; &gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;2) Given that we are expecting to hear from Simon, Johanna, and others regarding the Benchmark, is it really expected to take only 5-10 minutes?&amp;#160; I would anticipate no less than 30.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;2) Given that we are expecting to hear from Simon, Johanna, and others regarding the Benchmark, is it really expected to take only 5-10 minutes?&amp;#160; I would anticipate no less than 30.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;PLR = OK with adding more time here, especially if we are ensuring there is time to hear from Community Members, Simon, Johanna, others.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;3) With respect to the wiki editor, don't we have consensus on needing to do this?&amp;#160; If we have a proposal, I think it would be really easy to push this one offline.&amp;#160; It's also on the agenda twice.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;3) With respect to the wiki editor, don't we have consensus on needing to do this?&amp;#160; If we have a proposal, I think it would be really easy to push this one offline.&amp;#160; It's also on the agenda twice&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;PLR - Yes, prior discussions were in budget range of $20K&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;#160; &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;So when current proposal for &amp;gt;60K Euros popped up, it causes a moment of pause to assess where the miscommunication came from.&amp;#160; Paul is proponent of contracting for HALF the 60K figure and 'working hard' to stimulate volunteers to complete the other half, even if it is Students....who get a Free pass to our AppSec Conference for their efforts!&amp;#160; Incentives like that might help. &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;4) In reviewing the &amp;quot;Summary Report AppSecUSA-San Francisco 2015&amp;quot;, I noted that my name wasn't listed as a Board member attending the conference.&amp;#160; All Board members were in attendance and I would like it updated to reflect that I was there as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;4) In reviewing the &amp;quot;Summary Report AppSecUSA-San Francisco 2015&amp;quot;, I noted that my name wasn't listed as a Board member attending the conference.&amp;#160; All Board members were in attendance and I would like it updated to reflect that I was there as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Paul Ritchie</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Jsokol: Created page with &quot;'''Josh Sokol''' A few comments:  1) Yes, I would still like to discuss the proposal to eliminate the &quot;At Large&quot; positions.  I still believe that the Board is doing a crappy j...&quot;</title>
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				<updated>2015-12-06T02:41:30Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Josh Sokol&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; A few comments:  1) Yes, I would still like to discuss the proposal to eliminate the &amp;quot;At Large&amp;quot; positions.  I still believe that the Board is doing a crappy j...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Josh Sokol'''&lt;br /&gt;
A few comments:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Yes, I would still like to discuss the proposal to eliminate the &amp;quot;At Large&amp;quot; positions.  I still believe that the Board is doing a crappy job of engaging with respect to Chapters, Projects, and Governance and would like to see individuals tasked with these duties.  There is nothing preventing them from doing other stuff as well, but we lack focus in these areas and desperately need it.  That said, this may fit into the &amp;quot;Discussion of Board duties, roles and responsibilities, and improving the effectiveness of future Board meetings&amp;quot; discussion proposed by Andrew.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Given that we are expecting to hear from Simon, Johanna, and others regarding the Benchmark, is it really expected to take only 5-10 minutes?  I would anticipate no less than 30.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) With respect to the wiki editor, don't we have consensus on needing to do this?  If we have a proposal, I think it would be really easy to push this one offline.  It's also on the agenda twice.  &lt;br /&gt;
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4) In reviewing the &amp;quot;Summary Report AppSecUSA-San Francisco 2015&amp;quot;, I noted that my name wasn't listed as a Board member attending the conference.  All Board members were in attendance and I would like it updated to reflect that I was there as well.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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